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at the connecticut elementary school. our deepest prayers and sympathies to all of the families and others hit by this senseless tragedy. the horror of the story may have muted trading on wall street today, as all priorities are being rearranged in a moment, and we will get you caught up on these markets in just a moment, but first we want to let you know. president obama is set to make a statement on this tragedy from the white house around 3:15 eastern. our john harwood is in washington with some more details on what we know right now. john? >> reporter: well, bill, the horror of this tragedy is also muted talk of anything else in washington for the day, including the fiscal cliff and all the issues that we've been discussing for some time now, but one of the jobs of a president is to console victims and to console the nation at a time of grief of this magnitude, so we're going to hear from the president at 3:15. jay carney earlier saying he wasn't going to discuss issues like gun control. it wasn't a day for politics. it's a day to focus on the victims of the tragedy, so you can expect the
a couple of big steps back. >> good evening from newtown, connecticut. we'll have more on that coming up. >> and in washington, the nra breaks it's silence. the kudlow report starts now. >> all right let's go to john harwitt first in dc. i think i agree with what you were saying first. >>> he moved to plan b and the hope that further negotiations could produce progress. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have their current rates extended. i continue to have hope. that would reduce spending as well as revenues on the table. >> but of course the democrats in the senate. didn't see plan b as a step forward. harry reid came out and said, john boehner is walking away from the nenegotiations. >> every time we get down to something from the long-term financial think for this country. they do the charlie brown thing, they jerk the ball away. and this is what is going on. >> the posturing conceals the process that we are not aware of. but i talked to a budget aid that said, he thinks things are getting worse in terms for prospects of a deal. >> by the w
tragedy. we'll have the late on the senseless school shooting in connecticut in just a moment for you, but, first, take a look at how we're finishing the day on wall street. declines on the market. once again worries about the fiscal cliff going into year end. the dow jones industrial average down about 33 points on the session at 13,137. volume really stopped in the middle of the day. we saw things slow down quite a bit on the heels of the awful shooting and fatalities in connecticut. the nasdaq and s&p 500 also under pressure today. the mood down here impacted by the awful events in connecticut with us is hank smith of haverford investments and maggie patel and rajai from barclays and one of baron's top ranked financial advisers for the year. congratulations on that. sandy, nice numbers. okay. let's talk about the buying opportunities and how allocate capital in the midst of all of thighs issues that we talk about so much, in particular the fiscal cliff. >> well, i don't think you can trade around the fiscal cliff. if you have cash and plenty of people have cash on the sidelines and you
in newtown, connecticut. what can be done, if politics is the art of the possible? where does the possible reside in america? we talk solutions today on "power lunch." my partner, sue herera, sue? >> let's look at where major averages sit right now. just a second ago, we were up 80 point on the dow. we are close to the highs of this session so far. nasdaq composite is up 29 on the trading session and s&p 45u7b is up 13. it is that optimism over the fiscal cliff which increased over the weekend after house speaker boehner edged ever closer to president obama's position. indeed, the speaker met with the president at the white house this morning. eamon javers is at the white house. eamon? >> previous meetings between the president and speaker had been telegraphed a little bit. this one was not today. this is an interesting development but a grim-faced speaker bainer who arrived back up on capitol hill not talking to reporters. we don't yet have a sense of what was in the meeting, what the substance of it was. what we do know is what speaker boehner offered on friday, in a phone call to the pr
's chris palone near the scene with the latest. >> reporter: at the hour in newtown, connecticut, people are starting to gather in at least three local churches holding prayer vigils for the victims' families. police say it could take up to two more days to identify all the victims and collect all the clues at the elementary school here near me. the big question on everyone's mind tonight is why? imaginable horror. more than a dozen elementary schoolchildren brutally murdered by a gunman who walked into a school and opened fire. >> there were 18 children pronounced dead at the scene. there were two children transported to area hospital, pronounced dead at the hospital. there were six adults that were pronounced dead at the scene. >> reporter: frantic parents rushed back to the school, desperate for any information about their children. >> we just ran like every other parent and we found out we couldn't get to the school. >> i drove from work. i work in bridgeport. i drove back up here. it was the longest drive of my life, it was really hard not knowing. >> reporter: teachers barricaded t
money." i'm jim cramer. see you tomorrow! hey, larry, what do you have for us? connecticut, where the first of the victims from the tragedy here were laid to rest today. this grieving town begins the process of saying good-bye, investigators continue their search for how and why it all happened here. i'll have more coming up. devastation of superstorm sandy, but wait until you hear about all the pork loaded into this $60 billion sandy relief bill. hardly any of it gets to sandy and the actual survivors. we'll get to all that. "the kudlow report" begins right now. >>> first up, 14 days and the clock is still running for a deal to prevent the nation's economy from falling off the tax and fiscal cliff. president obama, speaker boehner, they huddled at the white house today once again, but are we really any closer to a compromise? we go back to cnbc's eamon javers who joins us from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, larry. you're right, they did meet today. it was a surprise meeting not announced as the previous meetings between the two men have
's shooting in connecticut. should investors, rather than the government, take the lead in attempting to influence gun policy? >>> herb greenberg will be out with his list of the worst ceos of the year. in this hour he will reveal number three. my partner sue herera on the floor of the new york stock exchange. hi, sue. >> hi, ty. it's a strong day with a triple digit advance. we have 13 days until america goes off the fiscal cliff. events moving faster in washington. house speaking boehner meeting with party members, moving to plan b. that deals with bush era tax cuts. the white house rejected that. investors like whatever progress we're seeing. s&p 500 at a two-month high. s&p up 1 1/3 -- 1.1 on s&p, dow jones industrial average up 114 points, almost a full% enand nasdaq up 1 1/3. the latest on how those negotiations are progressing. >> over the last 24 hours or so we've had a flurry of proposals, counter proposals, responses, responses to responses. as it lies right now, basically all those responses have been rejected by the other side. at the top of 2:00, we should have a new roun
power of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut, to try to put the pressure on republicans. he talked about them taking off their partisan war paint. he said he'd more than met them halfway in terms of spending cuts that he's offered, coming up in the income threshold for tax increases, and he has the upper hand in public opinion. there's no question about that. he is not surrendering that at this point. the question is whether speaker john boehner can move his caucus, even as far as he's already moved further toward the president. that's what the next couple days are going to be about. >> thank you very much, john. do you think, you think really sort of rumbling that we're hearing means that we have actually moved further away from the possibility of what i'm going to call the first of the 12 days of cliffness? >> insiders in both parties are telling me they think the prospects of no deal and going over the cliff have risen significantly. now, i continue to think that the fundamentals exist, as the president said in his news conference, there are only a few hundred billion dollars apart ov
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, connecticut, raising the prospect of policy changes to stem gun violence. it is monday, december 17th, 2012 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and andrew ross sorkin. let's take a look at our lineup today. first off, bob doll will be giving us his lineup for stocks. that's coming up at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. at 8:00 eastern, a cnbc exclusive. david tepper, one of the world's top performing hedge fund managers will join us to give us some of his wisdom in a kaerc t can't-miss interview. a lot to talk about with him. in the meantime, why don't we get to some of today's top stories. we could see some movement in the fiscal cliff negotiations. house speaker boehner offering to raise the top tax rates on those making over $1 million a year as well as other measures amounting to $1 trillion in new revenue. that's in exchange for an equal amount in spending cuts. the white house has not yet accepted the proposal. >>> also, apple says it has sold more than 2 million in iphone 5s in china just o
in the wake of the connecticut tragedy, but the questions were mostly focused on the fiscal cliff. the president said he couldn't understand why john boehner was detouring to plan b because the differences are narrow enough that they can still work it out. >> i've said i'm willing to make some cuts. what separates suss probably a few hundred billion dollars. the idea that we would put our economy at risk because you can't bridge that gap doesn't make a lot of sense. >> the smackdown from john boehner came shortly afterwards. it was short and sweet. he spoke for less than a minute and he said the onus is going to be on president obama if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> tomorrow the house will pass legislation to make permanent tax relief for nearly every american, 99.81% of the american people. and then the president will have a decision to make. he can call on senate democrats to pass that bill or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in american history. >> now bainor aides say they're confident they can pass their plan b, which would raise taxes only on incomes of a
the tragic shooting in connecticut, of course. the new york stock exchange will hold a moment of silence to honor the victims in the next few moments, and we'll be looking at the president's call for meaningful action and the politics of gun control. >> let's get to a road map for this morning. it starts with apple. under pressure once again. even dipping below $500 a share at some point this morning. shares will remain range bound near term. iphone 5 sales and cannibalization among the region. >> other concessions from the gop, the speaker proposing tax hikes for millionaires. could this be the tipping point. moving the talks beyond deadlock. >> a big week for earnings. yes, earnings. fedex, research in motion among the companies reporting. so finally maybe we'll be talking about fundamentals in the stock market more than just the cliff. we've got to talk about apple reversing its move lower this morning, sold more than 2 million iphone 5s in china. the best debut for any iphone in the china market. apple shares are higher as we mentioned. moving away from market bear territory. apple h
in newtown, connecticut. >> yep. >> we're all hugging our children a little more tightly this season. >> and everything's on the table. >> as an outdoorsman, i think we need to completely rethink guns in america. >> i think we need to protect our kids at the school, though. everything's on the table. >> our thoughts and prayers are with the families in newtown. >> thank you both very much. right now it's time for "squawk on the street." good morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." which debuted on cnbc's seven years ago today. happy anniversary to us. i'm melissa lee with carl and jim cramer and david faber live from the new york stock exchange. let's look at how we're setting up after yesterday's rally. particular strength in yesterday's rally. we didn't get housing starts, that's earlier today. as for the picture in europe, really the stand outout here is the euro. greece getting a five notch upgrade at the s&p. our road map this morning starts with gm. government motors no more. the treasury to exit its stake in the next 12 to 18 months, purchasing 2 million shares by the end
:15 moment of silence remembering what happened in connecticut. so i don't know. it seems to be maybe there is a muted sense there's going to be a spirit of compromise up there in washington now. we've seen some rotational action. cyclicals are down, banks are up. they seem to anticipate that this is going to be resolved. and then the implications are if we don't have a santa claus rally as we talked about, then we'll see something in january. because this last quarter has been sort of a wait and see kind of thing. that would probably speak to a good quarter for us next time around. >> you know, i wonder. i don't know that anybody's happy with oh, well this is going to be a january affair. and we're not going to deal with this after christmas. did you see a change in money flows? you're there on the floor watching real money move throughout sectors. did you see any change today or on friday as people felt that maybe we are at the beginning of a deal? or still people are sort of sitting on their hands and not wanting to move money around? >> getting more active. but it's been rotationa
in connecticut, please, bob? >> caller: yes, jim. first of all, let me say boo-yah from connecticut. and, you know, a few months ago i bought a keurig coffee machine. i was so impressed, i bought the stock, which was green mountain, i paid $57 for it. my question to you is, since it's gone down so much, started to come back up, should i hold on to it? >> i'm not -- i happen to be a fan of the keurig too, but unlike victor and the old ad, he was such a fan of realmington, he bought the company. i don't want to by green mountain. it's got the red flag, the red flag of my friend herb greenberg, and when he raises issues, i don't go there. herb tells me where battlegrounds are, and when it comes to a battleground, i'd rather eat a cold corn dog. well, check that. >>> i like to revisit stocks i talk about on "mad money," and in this case like hillshire, i think it needs more time, this is a long-term turn-around story. i suggest getting it on weakness, listen, this tastes better than the dog food i ate my first year of the show. after the break, i'll try to make you some money. >>> coming up -- ma
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'd like to say, that i think all of our hearts and prayers are with the families in newtown, connecticut. as a father, i cannot even imagine the utter horror that those families are going through right now, grieving the loss of their children and their loved ones. as far as the fiscal cliff is concerned, as the speaker has said, we remain committed to trying to minimize the impact on hard-working families and small businesses in this country, as far as tax increases are concerned. we look to find the answer to solve the problem on the spending issue here in washington. the president is not yet there. he has not come to where he needs to be in order for us to push through a bill that really does begin to address the problem. and as the speaker said, that's why we are now discussing an alternative plan, if the president and the white house cannot come our way. thank you. >> as the speaker and the leader said, we've been trying to make sure we do not go off this fiscal cliff. but at the same time, put america on a different path. one for job creation, one that also takes care of our spendin
to the pete of newtown, connecticut, a town shattered by friday's shooting and elementary school. 26 people were killed, including 20 children, before the gunman killed himself. speaking at the service, the president noted this was the fourth time he's had to console a community during his time in office. and he demanded changes in the way the u.s. deals with gun violence. >> we will be told that the causes of such violence are complex. and that is true. no single law, no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for ip action. surely we can do better than this. >> the president says he will meet with a group of law enforcement parents and teachers in an effort to prevent future tragedies. several democratic lawmakers are now calling for a new push on tougher u.s. gun laws, including a ban on military-style assault weapons. >>> we'll take a short break. still to come, why china's new leaders see a future where economic growth isn't driven so much by exports. we'll have the latest. i always wait until
have a newtown, connecticut facility. >> we do. we have about 400 associate there is and it really has been traumatic. last night we had a memorial service, 3,500 local people game from newtown, from danbury. it is a tragedy. many of our associates live in newtown, we have a major facility there and it just shows the fragility of life and i can speak as a parent that if you lose a child, nothing else matters. >> now, if someone wants to help, was there an organization that you would recommend that people help? >> they have set up a special section in the united way in danbury. and if you connect the united way danbury, they have an area where you can send funds and they're doing a lot of good work. >> okay. now your company itself has been pretty socially responsible. an issue that i thought was important is fuel, the footprint that your company has and how important this is to you. zero fuel now you use? >> it really is. it's a remarkable situation that we have, you know, we are an integrated company. we have operations in vermont and vermont can go minus 14 in winter and this year we
everything from hurricane sandy and the senseless slaughters in sandy hook, connecticut, spending less and giving more to charities. >> jan, i don't want to minimize any of this, the damage that this storm has already inflicted in parts of the country and could still inflict, but we were in an environment where people were just not shopping to begin with. do you think retailers could use this as a good excuse going forward? >> yeah, bert's here with me the four horsemen and apocalypse. i have to agree with him and there's really not a lot of time left. today was going to be a very, very big day, bases where it's not being snow affected. i think you'll see a strong performance. i know i was tough, the biggest deal. the fiscal cliff killed us. retailers went deep on profession and they said, no. i thrill city nyse's will be bert. >> do you think it's getting better in 2013, bert? >> 2013 starts the retail ice age and maybe the 500 to 1,000-day retail recession. shopping centers, malls-based, starting to refinance some of them will create record vak kiss on the laws. >> which stocks speci
in connecticut, please, chris? >> caller: boo-yah. i want to know where you stand on -- >> i don't know, where i stand, it's already too high. this thing does not come in. i would prefer you to be in eqt, which i think i reiterated this morning and i think is much better. there are lots of people who say there will be blockbuster natural gas deals coming down the road and that's why cabot stays high, plus incredible marcellus holdings. when i first heard about it, it was through cog and i thought it was like veal, but it turned out to be a good place for natural gas. that is the conclusion of the "lightning round"! >> the "lightning round" is sponsored by td ameritrade. >>> coming up -- waiting for washington to rise above? get your portfolio prepared for whatever happens. call, tweet, or e-mail and find your way to the latest edition of "am i diversified." isk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he
, i'm in the top 2%. i'm paying 45% of my total income in income tacks boxes to state of connecticut and the government. >> you need a better accountant, peter. >> more than half of my income is going to go to the government. you tell me, what's fair about that? >> i'll tell you what's fair about that -- >> i'm paying half. excuse me. i don't care what the majority voted to do. they don't have a right to steal my money just because they vote for it. >> i'll tell you what the problem is. we're in a crisis. we're in a crisis caused by the bush policies, unfunded wars, tax cuts we couldn't afford, and we have to dig our way out. in the process, the president is saying that the wealthiest are most able to contribute to that. >> it's not going to dig us out just raising the taxes on the wealthy. >> it is not going to dig us out alone. >> it's a very, very small and minor drop in the ocean in the grand scheme. >> you know what the wealthy are going snoto do? they're going to invest more abroad. they're not going to employ as many people. >> they didn't do that when -- >> we have to go, guy
, connecticut. our words can do little to ease your pain. but you know this. we are with you in this incredible difficult time. and recognize that you are who we are thinking about, even as we try to focus on our work today. so as for the markets, it was another weak day. dow dipped 36 points. s&p gave up .41%. nasdaq declined .70. a lot of that again because of apple. you know the drill as we head into the weekend. i'm not expecting to hear any progress on the fiscal cliff. but you know, i always watch the sunday morning talk shows now very closely and i'm looking for some politicians saying something encouraging. what does encouraging mean? it means a republican uttering the two words tax increase without the word no before it. and the democrats uttering two words, spending cuts, without the word no before them. neither seems to be able to pull off that syntax, though. at this point i think we've got to assume that the washington people, they can't get it together. we've got to gird ourselves for a cliff, make sure that we understand what the dive will look like, and focus on things that are
of the newtown connecticut tragedy. we love the way you all have been strong in support of them. >> thank you. i very much appreciate that. michael, let me ask you, what do you want to be avoiding in 2013? >> i think you have to look at it from the standpoint of extreme. it's clearly in the bond market. it's clearly in the love for dividends. it's clearly in the love for income versus capital appreciation, versus cycle kral. i call this the rocky balboa stock market. we've had tremendous swings from the bears. you cannot deny the resilience, best year since '09. how is it comparatively smaller fiscal cliff going to do it? >> he does have a point. the relative strength of this market this year has been impressive given all the headwinds that this market has. >> it's been macho ka macho. that's the fighter who just passed away in puerto rico. it has taken blows like you can't believe and has hung in there. and the market leads the economy, not the economy leads the market. we remain defensively positioned because of profits, production and personal income. but we do know maybe we need to change th
connecticut and new jersey to make sure we help our clients get back up in their homes, businesses and so on and so forth. what that sends by the customers there's value in what we're doing. we're began to continue to go out. it's important for companies to protect themselves from cyber attacks and address your suit, just like another hurricane coming through. are you seeing them sitting on their hand and not wanting to do anything? there's two different men at all times. the consumer is spending like they have been, but the business is a lot more cautious. >> my business is one where it says regardless of your miss you need to protect your certainly risks, and we have do is provide them different call at all request if we had a situation where the money couldn't come out of their capital. in effect, rear-ended capital from us. if you think about some of the cast physical in japan and i'll and cries mist. all of those can a ghastly and issues that we deal, plus the day-to-day issues that people face, it's good for our business. >> what you're saying is your business is -- the interest rat
to try to present to people. first of all, there's an assault weapons ban in connecticut to start with. secondly, a killer like this, a man who's as demented as this man was andbrilliant as he was, he's going to find away to do it with weapons. kn not with weapons, he'll do it with bombs and other weapons. i see why you can't have a reasonable restriction on assault weapons. i'm perfectly okay with that. i'm not okayky trying to prevent a simplistic answer. this is about mental health. our ability to track people, incarcerate people who harry mentally ill. about our ability to understand why they're acting the way they're acting, stricter law enforcement in those areas. you another, new york city has very low crime. we have very strict gun control in new york city. chicago has very high murder rate. they have the same strict gun control in chicago. i never thought it was about gun control. in and of itself, gun control meaning assault weapons control is worth taking a good look at, but the way the president is presenting this, he's going to run into problems with his own democrats who
to clean up new york and connecticut and new jersey from hurricane sandy and reauthorize some intelligence bills. so i mean, there's no real deal in the offing. there's nothing going on behind the scenes that would lead us to believe that anything would get done before january 1. >> all right. josh, out to you. obviously a lot of the discussion has been around the kind of deal that we would get if we do get something. if a deal does come through, it -- more likely will not be comprehensive, right? there's going to be a lot of negotiating that occurs after the first of the year. i guess my question to you is, does this leave the markets open to turmoil and more volatility as we head into january? >> the markets are going to be left open to turmoil and volatility, period. what we've seen is that despite the stakes getting higher, this isn't a game of poker but one of go fish. and no one seems to be fishing their wish. republicans are working with a weaker hand because they have to do a deal that involves a greater democratic coalition as a result of the failure of plan b. >> jake, question f
, connecticut, that would be fine with them and it's just a matter of damage control. >> and will republicans have to pay in any way for something that has no spending cuts in it. >> ideally, a lot of these guys would like to wait until january so they can say we voted for a tax cut and the new status quo is where all of the taxes have gone up. i'm sure there will be primary challenges. >> what do you think? >> first of all, let me be clear. i think 50/50 at best for exactly the reason you cited. i can't imagine that reid and mcconnell are having a happy discussion right now, so there will be serious differences there. for example, if mcconnell insists on keeping the estate tax parameters where they are instead of going where the president is, that completely seals the deal and that's one piece. >> michelle, you've made that point throughout the show, and i partially agree with you, but i will tell you this. right now everybody in this town is focused on taxes and preventing 98% of households from seeing a tax increase and that's what's in these guys' heads and i expect you won't accept this,
in connecticut, sandy, fiscal cliff, everything. with that in mind where do you see consumer spending, consumer discretionary spending next year? >> i think in 2013 there's always a place that excels in consumer discretionary and it's based on product, price and where they can expand in terms of channel extension. in 2013 i think we'll see names like nordstrom where they are accelerating the rate of growth. i think we'll see urban outfitters continue their turnaround, perhaps in an accelerated pace in 2013, and i think you're going to continue to see, particularly in the first half of the year, the demand for products from michael kors do well. second half of the year is a different story and perhaps the turnaround of tiffany's to be the name for the second half. >> meantime, r.j., i think you would agree retail remembers scrambling right now because consumer confidence is plunging. three reports in a row that have been pretty dismal. >> yeah, i would agree. i think we're looking for a bit of a pullback in 2013, not only due to the fiscal cliff issues that will become more aware, especially whe
. they are surging repossessions up in and 84% jump in new jersey and up as well in connecticut. you don't need a crystal ball it see the future. just the foreclosure starts numbers. that the first stage of foreclosure in new york, new jersey, arkansas and washington. you see the repo man will be busy there in 2013. now, home prices have been rising nicely. but this new supply of bank-owned properties coming to market next year could temper though gains a bit and remember, the overall drop in foreclosure activity is due it a big jump in short sales and principal reduction loan mods and those are on the fiscal cliff if we lose on the forgiveness. we have plenty more to look at on the facebook page, so go ahead and go to it, as well as the blog. sue? >> thanks, we will. >> the global natural resources continues. they just inked a joint venture with aca. you see the stock pop reopen. it was halted for trading. they are doing a joint venture in canada for space of land that could have up to 9 billion barrels ever oil or equivalent. they are paying a billion up front at close. another billion over f
, the fiscal cliff, newtown, connecticut, what happened up there, that's the gem feeling overall. jcpenney, they've had promotions walking away from it every day, low discount price story. oppenheimer noted discount racks had been cleared and the traffic seems to have improved in that store. maybe that change in their philosophy has helped them out. that's a note that was out on oppenheimer today. bottom line here, guys, is i think we are seeing some movement with some companies to deal with some of these retail sales issues. you'll see a lot of pressure on margins. david, i think you mentioned this, about what was going on with inflows and outflows from equity mutual funds. it's true we're continuing to get outflows from equity mutual funds. that's certainly been disappointing. we had it going through up until last week. the end of last week, it was reported the first outflows from treasuries. more specifically, from general bond funds. that's the first time we've seen this in a very, very long time. all right, it was a very small number, something on the order of $1 billion or something
being up. all of a sudden then, we had the impacts of sandy, a tragedy up in newtown, connecticut, and just a lot of other factors that just put a damper on the season. >> so, it is fair to say that it started better than it ended now. >> it started better than it ended. there was a lot of excitement around black friday. i mean it was almost like the super bowl. they have all this advertising, drag people out, it's the biggest event of the year come shopping, and then week after that we had the pro bowl. there was no excitement. there was no reason to come out shopping. so big bang, but it kind of waned as we went into the season. >> how much of the season is in the books now? i mean, what's still left to happen? >> there's a couple of big days still coming. i think this weekend is a big weekend as people redeem gift cards, go into the stores, exchange items for what they're looking for. hopefully get that add-on sale and people start to take advantage of the clearance sale, i would say, though, 95% of it is in the books. we've probably got some strong days ahead of us, though, th
, the hurricane sandy, the track dpi in connecticut, people had a lot on their minds this season. this weekend was a key weekend. i think it helped. i didn't see promotions being extra promotional. but it's a push till the end. >> okay, so winners and losers? >> i think some of the winners, i think you're going to see companies like tjx, macy's. i think american eagle outfitters, even gap had a very good season, along with michael kors. >> losers? >> i think you had a tough time at jcpenney. i think the traffic was tough there all the time. i think kohl's had to be extra promotional in order to be able to drive the sales. and the whole children's sector was very promotional. from gymboree to children's place. >> so, dana, jason trennert from strat eegous. how are you doing? >> good, how are you, jason? >> good. normally retail stocks outperform in january, because i think that phenomenon that andrew was talking about is that there's a general sense that christmas gifts canceled at a certain point and then it comes back at the end and then you wind up having a big january and the stocks tend to
is the ticker on this of course, troubles surrounding the newtown, connecticut, shooting a lot of sellers on that stock during that period of time, today, issuing another $15 billion, expand its buy back program which it just announced with its fiscal second quarter results, announced 20 million share -- $20 million worth of buy backs and expand that to 15. nice gain on the shares. >> >> a big winner for the year. look at that chart. >> all handgunmakers, talking about this before, how ironic you can the obama administration was seen strict irbefore the elections and hand brought forward the dematte manned that might have been in the future, people wanted to bite hand guns. >> always the case. any time the debate over gun control flares up. >> does the framework of the "wall street journal" piece tell us anything new about best buy, sears? >> for sears, we have seen them cut costs, cut costs, sears and the kmart stores. it seems that this year the reckoning, the kmart operation, people have lost track of that if you send people inside kmart today, i think you basically find a relatively h
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